New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has four Super Bowl rings and has garnered NFL MVP honors twice during the course of his career. Now in his sixteenth season, there isn’t much that Brady hasn’t accomplished.

But former Redskins defensive end Dexter Manley clearly isn’t impressed by Brady’s career achievements. Manley, who was nicknamed the “Secretary of Defense,” isn’t a big fan of quarterbacks. Remember, he used to frequently appear on WTOP as a guest, but those radio appearances ended when he used a homophobic slur in reference to Troy Aikman on live radio roughly two years ago.

And now he’s teeing off on Brady. Check out what Manley had to say during an interview with the Sports Junkies on 106.7 The Fan on Thursday (via Dan Steinberg of The Washington Post).

“First of all let me tell you something, let me ask you guys a question: who would you take, Joe Theismann or Tom Brady?” Manley began. “I’m taking Joe T. I’ve got a guy [at work], he loves Tom Brady, and I think Tom Brady, I ain’t gonna go there, but Tom Brady can’t even pack Joe Theismann’s jock. This [co-worker], that’s all we debate all day is about Joe Theismann or Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady can’t pick up a first down. He has no athletic skills, he’s surrounded by good people, but the guy is in the toilet, in my opinion. In my opinion he’s in the toilet.

“I’ll take Joe Theismann, I’ll take [Matt Ryan], anything over Tom Brady,” Manley went on. “I’ll take Joe Theismann first, I’ll take Matty Ice second, and I might take Doug Williams third, but I’m not gonna take Tom Brady to lead my team nowhere….Tom Brady is garbage. He can’t pick up a first down. He has no athletic skill. He’s surrounded by people, but Tom Brady is garbage.”

That’s a hot take, and no matter what Brady’s reputation is among NFL players, you won’t find many that will call him “garbage.”